Improve this answer. I would add you have had at least one project fail under your leadership I would disagree with the second bullet point. The ability to lead others does not define "senior". It defines the "lead" portion of a title. I know senior developers who I'd rather push off a cliff than follow them over it. I love your other 2 definitions though. I'm still cockier than I ought to be but even I figured that one out.
I would also add, after 10, hours of real programming not just sitting in front of a computer. Show 14 more comments. The 10, hour thing has been debunked. This answer kinda makes it sound like you have to be the Mozart of programming in order to be considered "Senior.
That might be what it takes to be considered the "God" of programming, but "Senior" has to do with age and rank. If you've been in development for a while and you lead others, you're "senior.
More important than "This person will leverage asynchronous programming, queuing, caching, logging, security and persistence when appropriate. Malcolm Gladwell's book is based on the research of Anders K Ericsson. While the 10, hours is an empirical requirement is highly competetive fields which will definitely increase if our lifespan or free time increases , it is by no means a sufficient condition. And these 10, hours only apply to deliberate practice look up the definiton.
So there is no rule that "I practice 10, hours, so I will be famous". And while classical music is very competetive in terms of skill, success in popular music relies less on musical skill compared to classical and more on personal charisma.
But charisma is most likely can be developed, too. George Martin, who the Beatles owe a large part of their success to, didn't like their music first. But he said "They had tremendous charisma". Show 6 more comments. I tend to agree that senior should have a meaning in being able to do something more than just the 'coding'. Rudi: Senior implies there is something beneath, rather than "have been doing it a long time".
As they say in a popular film, "Always two there are, a master and an apprentice. Orbling - senior is a comparison, but it doesn't have to be relative to members of the same firm.
Jeff O: I understand where you are coming from, it rather depends if you think of it as a job title or some sort of classification. I would sit with the former, which would mean necessary within the same firm. Show 3 more comments. Forget your hang ups about titles and prove your worth!
I don't think he is missing the point. Any sensible person knows that it means nothing. Wearing clothes is pointless too is the temperature is right.
Isn't adult life a big lie after all? Add a comment. You can call an acorn a tree, but that don't change what it be. The only logical conclusion is that "senior" means something else: relative rank, as in "senior to the guy just out of college" poor Spanish spellers, i.
Lol, at the architect thing. I heard in MS a guy can become a tech lead at 2 years experience and ask someone with 10 years experience to perform better or face consequences :D — Geek. Well it's just a job title but people often judge your knowledge based on that job title and let's not forget your salary.
Kev, exactly and that is why title's are important :- — Geek. I feel the need to point out the following. It is not safe to equate time in job with experience. A dimwit who spends 10 years doing the same thing with minimal effort will be blown out of the water but a smart achiever who is pushing themselves for 18 months.
There was a good blog post by Martin Fowler recently. Things that I took away from it are: It has nothing to do with how long you've been working for somebody. Senior developers are good at estimating. Just to clarify Skills that I have listed above is what I believe a good senior software engineer should have in addition to fundamental software engineering skills and practices.
By that standard a lot of people who can't program and don't like to, are senior developers. At no point I said that they don't like or can't program. I said that their skill set is not just programming, but a range of other things. Sorry, I should have been clearer with my answer. Skills that I have listed is what I believe a good senior software engineer should have in addition to the fundamental software engineering skills. Link to the blog post?
Until then, 'lead' is probably a more descriptive term. Take this scenario into consideration: 16 programmers on a team, each with exactly 1 year more experience than the rest.
Downvote if I could. IMO, senior isn't about any one thing let alone age or years in the field. If a second year developer is capable of leading a team and does , then they could be considered for the title. In the military, Apprentice, Journeyman, Craftsmen, and Superintendent skill levels are awarded to those that have the necessary skills, and have tested to prove it. I feel the same way — Sinaesthetic.
Claudiu Constantin. I feel that in many cases title has become more of a definition of pay grade than skill level and experience. Which quite often is determined by negotiation skills. If a mid-level developer interviews for a senior level position and gets the job it does not actually define that they are more skilled or experienced. Simply they were able to negotiate themselves into a higher paid position.
Therefore I agree with you titles can be wrong and misleading. I think your answer is the best here, but in reality companies around the world uses this terminology in all job titles, so we can not avoid it. Bernard Dy. I think it's the opposite. The better you are, the longer it takes for code you wrote to become crap. When I started coding, I constantly looked back and realized how bad my code was.
Experience teaches you to write code, that won't degrade at light speed. It's about understanding your maturation as a developer, and also humility and learning. Being a senior developer is about so much more than code. What you discribe is a personal development that exists in every aspect of human life. Being humble and willing to learn doesn't make you a senior whatever, but rather a good apprentice. However, the primary task of a senior developer is to teach. You can't teach someone if you think all you did 3 months ago is crap.
You need a certain calmness that can tame a junior's "everything's crap, let's tear it apart and reinvent the wheel once more"-mentality. As far as "everything's crap" part of being a senior developer is being able to understand what really is and what isn't good; some of that is talent, some skill, but also a lot is experience with several environments; living through both quality systems and train wrecks teaches a lot.
I'm a senior programmer Thus he lets the "Juniors" fix his bugs and test it. I have, actually every once in a while in aplace I used to work they would hire a consultant to help with a project I was working on and they thought was not going well enough.
Other times I did not need the help but just told him what to say to my bosses. Since he wore suit and tie "his" arguments were sound and reasonnable and thus was exactly what needed to be done.
At that point I just quit and let the suit and tie finish it all up, found myself a job in a company where suit and tie are forbidden It could have something to do with money. Manoj R. Lukas Eder. But I would say it's only a job title!
If it's in your job title, then you are one. Morgan Herlocker. When you're at 1 year, give that 30 years guy a chance. You might be right, but wait a bit. You might be better at coming up with solutions to specific problems but if he doesn't stink, he might know a thing or two about avoiding larger, more global issues.
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